We are pushing organisations to go to whole of workforce insurance.
At that point you can have a better wellbeing discussion with them, even if it’s a 20-person organisation or a 60-person organisation.
But if we stay where we are and where the market really is as a top tier, managers-only policy which includes a bit of flexible benefit cover in there if you can afford it, we have an issue.
When we have policies which are £100 a month before they are taxed on it and that is the flex option, guess what, people are voting with their feet.
They are going in the opposite direction unless they really need it and then we have self-selection and a risk spiral in that self-selection.
In the flex market that is a major issue and is driving claims but is also destabilising the whole thing.
Is it going to work out in three to five years? I think it might blow up before then because sustainable healthcare is right, but you need the whole workforce or you need to hold the risk pool and they take it on the chin.